AndyS Trolls WIP

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:21 pm

So here is my first ever WIP post!

The Trolls have been undercoated with Citadel black spray with white over the top. Small bursts at approx 45 degree angle and a little from below. This really brings out the detail!
My airbrush set arrived today, now I just have to wait for the paint and get some practice! I'm hoping that the tones of the undercoat will show through the airbrushed basecoat to help with shading.

That's it for now. I'll keep you posted!

AndyP · Postby **AndyP** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:38 pm

Nice. I really can't wait for my trolls to come :-)

Looking forward to seeing how you get on with the airbrush since I'm looking at getting the same one.

bloodwars · Postby **bloodwars** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:26 pm

yeah, i couldn't not get the norse starter, so i can't wait to see how these go.

bloodwars · Postby **bloodwars** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:27 pm

oh yeah, can you stick a space marine next to him for scale? if you don't mind that is.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:09 pm

I don't have any Space marines mate! lol

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:12 pm

I can do a human. Kara Black (Kara's last stand) or Meloda.

RayzrYR · Postby **RayzrYR** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:23 am

Ahh c'mon, everyone should have at least one space marine, even if just for scale purposes... :geek:

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:58 am

I owned the original and the original plastic set but that's it. Never really liked 40K.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:57 pm

I have some more pics here showing the black and while undercoat.

And a scale shot with Meloda

My airbrush and Model Air paints have now arrived so I hope to tinker at the weekend. maybe even put some colour on the Trolls!

zedmeister · Postby **zedmeister** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:09 pm

Make sure you use a respirator with that airbrush if you're in a confined space bud...

Rick_Boer · Postby **Rick_Boer** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:10 pm

Who doesn't want green lungs?!

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:21 pm

I had a little test yesterday, there's not a lot of overspray so I should be fine.

Thanks for your concern though guys!

bloodwars · Postby **bloodwars** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:54 pm

troll big. troll smash.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:46 pm

OK, so I couldn't wait to get started with the airbrush once my paints had arrived. So with minimal practice I dived in with something I hoped would be easy. Or at least easy to fix if I messed up!

The Troll Vane!

This was first airbrushed with vallejo canouflage black brown, then burnt umber and finally bright brass. All thinned with vallejo thinners at around 30%.
I think it's a reasonable base to start the highlights and weathering.

Next stop Troll flesh!

Slinky · Postby **Slinky** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:35 pm

Oh, wow.

I have a set of Trolls coming, I hadn't realised quite how HUGE they are.

Even more excited now

Darq Hunter · Postby **Darq Hunter** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:10 am

These guys are massive! My Angelcynn look so tiny compared to that Troll. I can't wait to see more in progress pics.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:20 am

You're in luck Mercedes, next pics up now!

I base coated the trolls with Model Air Field Green and U.S. Light Grey on the belly.

Then I continued with the standard bearer. Working into the flesh a little more to make the colour a little darker and blend the green and grey.

I think the most difficult part will be the trolls back. I have added some shadows but it's a large area and needs lots more work!

I also need to experiment more with the airbrush. find the happy medium between a good solid coverage and letting the 2 stage undercoat show through. All of the green is still quite light and nees to be a little darker and more solid. Something to do tonight!

AndyP · Postby **AndyP** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:10 am

Those look really good so far. If that's the result from a budget airbrush, compressor and a small amount of practice then I'm definitely ordering one today. Do you know the model number of the airbrush that came with your compressor?
Never mind, I checked your link in ks comments and it says the model in there.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:46 am

It comes with 2 airbrushes. I was using the side/gravity fed one with 0.3mm nozzle.

AndyP · Postby **AndyP** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:08 am

Thanks

grefven · Postby **grefven** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:28 am

The front looks really promising, and I agree that the back will be the most challenging, simply because it's such a big area with not too much details, so it could end up looking a bit flat. But I really dig the front thus far.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:42 am

Cheers Gref!

bloodwars · Postby **bloodwars** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:25 pm

love it, can't wait to see it completed.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:37 pm

It won't be fully completed until I get the plastic base through with my first starter shipment

Azhrarn · Postby **Azhrarn** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:20 pm

Considering you're an airbrush novice (and with many of us looking to get one) you're a great advertisement for those things.

That troll looks really nice, you can really see the effect of the dual primer coat, which I hadn't really expected.

Thanks for showing your work in progress, keep it up. :lol:

Also : Trolls are bloody massive. :shock:

Glad I have some Dragonkin and Rhinomen coming.

Dalthius · Postby **Dalthius** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:05 am

Most impressive! My airbrush arrives Thursday. What did you use to cover the trolls belts when you sprayed? I've got so much to learn. I'm planning on using my airbrush to double prime, much like you did. Since I'll be using a darker green (vallejo tank green) would you recommend I thin it? It's air paint.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:54 am

I didn't mask anything so the belts got some green on them. I used around 30% thinners. I found hard buying the paint on the net as they are shown as a light to dark shade. Difficult to tell the colour. Let us know how the tank green goes.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:33 am

I can't find tank green in the model air range. The field green I used is quite dark on the chart but looks quite vibrant over the white!

Rick_Boer · Postby **Rick_Boer** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:58 am

Number 71011 is Tank Green.

Rick_Boer · Postby **Rick_Boer** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:02 am

Mmm, looking at the Tank Green I have at home, it might be a bit to dark for the trolls. It's close to Olive Green as a color, so there's some brown in there

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:26 am

Ah, that comes up as Armour green on the online chart.

Rick_Boer · Postby **Rick_Boer** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:30 am

I got the full VMA-box here at home, so if you need a more accurate description of a color you just ask and I'll take a look

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:37 am

Cheers Rick!

AndyP · Postby **AndyP** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:16 pm

Quick question Andy. Did you buy your VMA paints individually or go for one of the box sets? If box set which one?

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:31 pm

I didn't get a set. Just 10 pots for £21 on ebay.

AndyP · Postby **AndyP** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:33 pm

OK cheers. Seen the same listing, I think I'll have to have a think what colours I'll need. :-)

Rick_Boer · Postby **Rick_Boer** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:58 pm

You could also go for the full set, it includes a very nice case with place for all your paints

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:10 pm

Substantially more expensive though I think Rick!

AndyP · Postby **AndyP** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:44 pm

Having just bought the VMC 72 paint set, a compressor, airbrush, thinners, primer & cleaner I could do without forking out for another full set. And that doesn't include the huge Darklands order. :-D

I'm so dead when the wife finds out ;-)

Dalthius · Postby **Dalthius** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:50 am

I opted for the tank green because it looked lighter than the dark green on the website. I'm looking for a duller green than what Andy has, maybe almost like a grey/green, and I may do my trolls with slight variations in their skin tones. Not sure yet. Painting them all the same seems....blah. besides, we aren't all the same skin tone, are we?

I'm also thinking doing one in a bluish-grey. But I'm definitely glad I got an airbrush, that'll help with these big fellas. I ordered a small paint set from thewarstore.com and may get more. They were out of black primer though :/

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:12 am

To be honest the Field Green used is lighter and more yellow than expected. I am dulling it down with dark green glazes and leaving the brighter green as highlight. Seems to be a slow process! I have started painting other areas in order to get a better feel for the whole model. From doing that it is clear that I need to add more contrast into the trolls flesh, but not as much as one would normally have on a 30mm human.

More pics soon!

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:46 am

has anyone used the Model Air matt varnish? How does it compare to Army Painter anti-shine?

Don't worry. Looks like it's the same across all ranges now. Not very matt in my experience.

Postby **Tim Fisher** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:24 pm

Testors Dullcote or go home for me.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:31 pm

I use dullcote for display. But it's not at all protective. I'll have to use a varnish first, maybe vallejo, then dullcote over the top. Who knows, I may want to have a game with these at some point!

Rick_Boer · Postby **Rick_Boer** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:56 pm

I use the Vallejo gloss varnish through the airbrush as my protective layer. Then a spray of testor's and you're done

Postby **Tim Fisher** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:16 pm

I know a guy (JY-Y) who has an awesome varnishtutorial. I'll see if i can dig it up.

I usually gloss first then testors. Though I'm not a fan of what testors (or any matt varnish) does to metals.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:43 pm

Army painter claim that their varnish keeps the look of the metal. I've used it but the nozzle clogged up with nearly a full can left! Other than that I thought it was good.

So 3 lovely new Trolls......

judgedoug · Postby **judgedoug** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:27 pm

AndyS wrote:Army painter claim that their varnish keeps the look of the metal. I've used it but the nozzle clogged up with nearly a full can left! Other than that I thought it was good.

So 3 lovely new Trolls......

Try turning it upside-down and spraying; that cleared my clog. Another clog I cleared by taking off the nozzle and soaking it in hot water for a few minutes then spraying upside down.

AndyS · Postby **AndyS** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:59 pm

I soaked that nozzle in everything I could think of! I always invert and spray after use, no idea why it clogged.

Dalthius · Postby **Dalthius** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:50 pm

Crap didn't even think about sealing/protecting

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