Future minis rumour roundup - April 2018 update

[OrlandotheTech]

Woo Hoo,

All the info back in one place

[Lesrac]

Can't wait for the update Zed

[zedmeister]

Well, that's a lot of infomation. As mentioned, some of this may not be applicable any more and some units may no longer be produced. Correct me if I am wrong as always...

[Alpharius]

Glad to see the Official Forums back up!

And, of course:



Thanks for the update Zed!

[Rob Lane]

Zed - there's quite a few errors in that round up dude, you want me to edit it?

[zedmeister]

Zed - there's quite a few errors in that round up dude, you want me to edit it?

Most definitely. I knew there were plenty of mistakes as I'm sure a ton has changed...

[deadlydeceiver]

Did I read "Nasty Angels"? Good god, that's on par with all the Conand rumour in terms of epicness!

[Jonathon Chester]

Zed the rumoured Brythoniaid character on dragon may have made me happy in a very special place.

[zedmeister]

Minor mid kickstarter update

[Rob Lane]

Couple of edits from me - Demifiends, and there's no "Ytene New Forest Giant" - that's Banbreca. He's from Ytene, a realm which is the New Forest area in modern day Britain.

Cheers
Rob

[Byzantii V]

Thanks for compiling all these updates, they are fun to read.

[zedmeister]

Big mid-kickstarter update ahoy! Removed units now funded from previous and current Kickstarters and added in hinted units.

Please do let me know if I missed a rumour or if you have artwork that I missed and I can add it to the list

[CountCrushmore]

Thank you very much for taking the time to write those news down!

[demyse]

the blurb on Krull's page makes reference to incubi..

[zedmeister]

Updated! Looks like I missed a load from the previous few months. Now with more units...

[Alpharius]

As always, thanks Zed!

[demyse]

Auxilia Equitates were mentioned by Rob in the starter host thread

[demyse]

freabera deduced from the musters, regular bears also

[demyse]

Stated by Rob regarding Infernii - There will be Gargols (Gargoyles, 40mm base), plus wingless versions of those; Demifiends (50mm) and Hellions (Fiend-Centaurs, 80mm) at some point though. As for Xet... watch this space. There won't be more of Xet, but more (older and crazier) Fiends.

also regarding Brythoniad - there'll be a giant cocneidr, yes... eventually...

[zedmeister]

Thanks Demyse for keep this going between my laziness - now updated with lots of missed snippets!

[James Balmer]

Awesome job you guys are doing here, keeping on top of all the information that we can glean from the different sources. It's very much appreciated.

[James Balmer]

Just in case you missed some of the lore we got.
Seaxsen -
Not much to say about these, except they're very far in the future... but I'll tell you what I've got in my locker...
- They're Saxons, of course, but continental ones; the horse is their shift, so centaurs are their thing. As well as the usual Germanic warriors they'd have centaurs and centaur lords.
- They'd be fairly cavalry based, but not too much; think Rohirrim.
- I do see these guys as interchangeable with the Anglecynn, pretty much, so they'd have Duguth etc.

Byzantii then...
- Praetorians will be the hearthguard
- There'll be Dis-Priest fanatics
- As Bob will be doing the Auxilia, he'll probably resculpt the Legionaries, which gives me an opportunity to do veteran Legionaries
- There'll be Demilegionarii with shields (shieldwall dudes)
- For cavalry there'll be Cataphractarii, Auxilia Equitati, Demi-cavalry and Dromedarii (camel riders)
- There'll be Hyaenae - basically for the Bestiarii, so a pack of them
- Skorpion-men are definitely a thing
- There'll be an Elephant to ride (not as big as the Mammox though)
- There'll definitely be a Skorpio ballista and an Onager (stone thrower)
- Rhino-men will be a thing, as will elephant-men
- There'll be a few more gladiatorii

Brythoniaid... are pretty well advanced to be honest.
- Mynach Du are definitely a thing, along with Rherelwr (Rhyfelwr with spears)
- There'll be Dynwocor spear-throwers
- cavalry will be Teulu Marchog and Marchog
- Draiglas will be 80mm dragons
- Draigoeri will be spitting dragons
- Dyngwyfern will be 80mm dudes, like Gahwn
- The Afanc - in looks a Wocor without wings - will be a thing
- There'll be a "big Cocneidr" at some point
- New general will be a Penteyrn
- Host Champion will be called Galahad
- Cadwaladr will ride a dragon
- Gwaelod will occur, and there'll be Cadyndraig - winged Dyndraig, amongst other goodies
- There'll be Ceffyldraig cavalry

James

[James Balmer]

Friesians... not much to say to be honest, I haven't done too much work on them; but they'd be very similar to the Angles of course, so there'd be Duguth, Gesith etc., perhaps called something slightly different but very similar.
Weroxa are their shape-shifts and they'd be similar to the Tarvax, armed and armoured differently, and whilst not as feral, they'd be wild of course.
Being predominantly traders, they'd have very good equipment and would be sea-farers of course, and they'd also be slavers, so they'd actually be able to field units of very different things from their various conquests. So expect a unit of slavers to include any kind of human, man-beast, etc. etc.
Think of Friesians as the ultimate sell-sword exploiters.

Norse info...
- Hearthguard will be Hirdmenn
- Fanatics will be Hrafnserkr (raven-shirts)
- Veteran infantry will be Bondmenn
- Monstrous Infantry will include Sea-Trolls (Sjøtroll) - 50mm bases
- There'll be two more Gunnhrafn
- Hrafnmenn will get bows
- Cavalry will be Holumenn / Hirdmenn
- There'll be a Leiptroll chief
- Trolls will get Trollhunder (troll dogs) - nasty buggers!
- I can confirm there will be Lesser Vore (smaller Blood-Maw) - 80mm bases
- There will be rime-trolls (frost giants) - hrimthursar - 80mm bases
- There will definitely be a lightning-beast of some sort
@Tristan - Geats / Danes / Svear will of course be a thing, at some point, but not for a long while yet so the above will have to suffice I'm afraid

James

[James Balmer]

Last one, for now at least

Jutes...
They're pretty well advanced now, thanks to this project, but I can confirm the following...
- Jutsweords will be hearthguard...
- Hræwas (Harrowers) will be the fresh dead (i.e., after dying, before wihts) - zombies I guess, but nothing like the zombies you know and love from Hollywood. They still retain intellect; Hrægar are the obvious starting points
- There'll be bat, beetle and maggot swarms
- There'll be a nice, lovely maggot beast
- 2x more Nihtbats will happen
- There'll be smaller guthbats, too (there'll be no bat-men, please note)
- There'll be more beetles of course; 2x more Mound Beetles, but 60mm beetles will also feature
- Jutsweord / Jutgar horse will happen, as will Jutboga horse
- There'll be some lich-warriors (sorcerous warriors, 1-3)
- There'll be a ghul-beast (basically a Gryreghul warped into something really rather odd)

James

[demyse]

thought I typed this but it seems the internet ate it
Vras are getting 80mm brock beasts (nasty badgers) and 80mm mole things that burrows and vras can follow behind in the tunnels

[James Balmer]

Latest for the Fomoraic:

Fomoraic are probably the most advanced of the kindreds, simply because I just can't help myself...!
In terms of Baalor:
- Gabrox are a thing (possible for this project now)
- There's still the Charging Tarvax
- Gul-Tarvax will occur, as will Gul-Gabrox
- Ograx will ride Srónocx
- There'll be two more Srónox
- There'll be an Armoured Mammox with howdah at some point; with either Reivers or WoB crewing it.
- There will definitely be a Warriors of Baalor ice chariot (on skis)
- Knights of Baalor will be a thing - either horses or bears
- Gabrax will be on Gooracx or Toracx
- Mallax will have helmed/mailed variants
Conand will be very cool...
- 30mm infantry will be Gill-men (fish-men but not as silly as it sounds)
- 40mm infantry will be Angler-men (angler-fish)
- 50mm will be Seal-men
- There'll be Shark-men (Hammerhead, Great White) and Whale-men, probably 80mm and 100mm respectively
- Crab swarms will occur, 80mm crab monsters too
- Horrible toad-things will definitely be something to look out for
- There'll be giant lobsters of course, smaller plesiosaurians (Kaairioc-cró), squid-men things (think Uuthüll and Cthulhu), shrimp-things, manta-things
- Swordfish-men

James

[demyse]

Vras
These guys have been a poor cousin of the Ysians for a while, although I have many plans for them! In essence the Vras are all types of rodent and mustelid, but the Vras in the shape of the mole-rat-men do dominate. But you'll see weasel-men, porcupine-beasts, badger-men, beaver-men, etc. etc. It's hard to make some of them not silly, so there'll be no rabbit-men or anything like that, they'll just be rodents gone nasty.
- War-Vras will be the hearthguard; armoured Spear-Vras with double-handers, basically, but bigger and more nasty - 40mm. There'll be spear/shield variants and fanatical variants without weapons (Claw-Vras).
- Grey-Vras will be heavily armoured Spear-Vras, alts really.
- Bow-Vras are bow-armed Vras and Blade-Vras (throwing knives) will be their alts (you've seen these, but I'll be doing new artwork for them).
- Filth-Vras are foul Vras monstrous infantry (50mm), a bit like the Corruptors I guess.
- Rend-Vras are 60mm Rat Ogre types, full unit of 5 with command.
- Brock-Beasts are badger-men, basically; 80mm, 1-3.
- Beaver-Beasts as well, 60mm.
- There'll be porcupine-men, probably skunk-men, weasel-men, etc. etc.
- Some rodents will be large beasts of course, so there'd be things like Back-Cracker but for other rodent types;
- Spear-Vras will ride Rat-Horses
- Rat swarms will feature
- The Blight side of things will mutate rats, so there'll be some good horrifying mutated beasts like Flint-Fang
- The rats will also do rat-vivicocts (think Three-Face without the arcane bits)
- There'll be Rat-Hounds as well, plus Vras-Handlers a bit like Goad-Drunes
- There'll be mole-men as well as Mole-Things - giant moles that burrow to the enemy and spew Vras after them

[demyse]

written in error

[Rob Lane]

You all forgot these... unless you've posted them somewhere else!

Albainn
The porridge gobblers are pretty far advanced right now, but there's some good stuff to come...
- Wild Oghurüc with weapons.
- Gomagg cyclops.
- Bolt-Throwers / Stone-Throwers will happen for these guys.
- They'll get wolfhounds too.
- Stonehorn (bit like the Aurogg but different)
- Oghurithneach are definitely coming (Oghurithne centaurs).
- Cruithne are 40mm Oghurithne / Humans. Gnith is related to them, that's why he's so tall. There'll be crossbow versions too.
- Oghurigg will get a unit of 3. Think Man-Eaters.
- Oghur will be resculpted at some point to be bulkier like the Ograx.
- A new host could easily be Brude with sling, Cingalom (slingers, alts of the Elbharu) and Oghurithne Stalkers (slingers, alts of the Hunters).
- Gair Aurmahr are the hearthguard; spears/mail/helms.
- Aumue Boa are the skyclad fanatics. Men and women.
- Cledom, sword-armed alts of Gairlom. Clemorlom too, alts of Gairmorlom.


Anglecynn
- there'll be resculpted Duguth / Gesith eventually, and they'll come in wolf / bear / boar flavours. (iconography)
- Geoguth, of course, will appear at some point.
- Ceorl Huntsmenn will appear - hooded guys, scouts.
- Werwulfas / Wælwulfas will be resculpted, there'll be heartguard Werwulfas and Wælwulfas with weapons, too.
- Werbera will of course appear. They'll be hidden in units like Fir Danu.
- Wereofor will be a thing; they will just be wereofor, boar-men, like Broga (which should be pronounced brow-ya, incidentally).
- There will be Baneofora - Killer-Boars - too, but they'll be 80mm and a bit like Guthwulfas.
- There'll be Giant Bears on 60mm.
- Wulfas will appear.
- The deers will be monsters rather than man-deers; they shift into true deers rather than hybrids. These things are nasty and retain their human intellect. 60mm bases. Can't be ridden, but normal deers can be.
Northumbrians (you did say Anglecynn) will just be Christian humans, like the Seaxna. So Duguth / Geoguth / Gesith, plus a smattering of holy men.


Atalantes
- Khalkotes of course, they'll happen eventually...
- Phalangites will be variants of the Oplites with very long spears... pikes, if you will...
- Kórikolossi are coming... 40mm lady kolossi...
- Loyal Khthones, alts of the Gorgonar with Atalantes iconography, will happen...
- Hippeus are the cavalry...
- Kentauroi will happen - each Kentauros is a bronze centaur, 60mm size... mesos on horse bodies...
- Herakles on his Pegasus will occur...
- Cres is a bigger version of Talos... much older, much more damaged!
- 2x more Bronze Bulls of course...
- War Engines - Sun Lance (laser), Flame Lance (flame thrower), Net Thrower, plus more mundane versions
That's it for the Ilioses...


Brythoniaid
Brythoniaid... are pretty well advanced to be honest.
- Mynach Du are definitely a thing, along with Rherelwr (Rhyfelwr with spears)
- There'll be Dynwocor spear-throwers
- cavalry will be Teulu Marchog and Marchog
- Draiglas will be 80mm dragons
- Draigoeri will be spitting dragons
- Dyngwyfern will be 80mm dudes, like Gahwn
- The Afanc - in looks a Wocor without wings - will be a thing
- There'll be a "big Cocneidr" at some point
- New general will be a Penteyrn
- Host Champion will be called Galahad
- Cadwaladr will ride a dragon
- Gwaelod will occur, and there'll be Cadyndraig - winged Dyndraig, amongst other goodies
- There'll be Ceffyldraig cavalry


Byzantii
- Praetorians will be the hearthguard
- There'll be Dis-Priest fanatics
- As Bob will be doing the Auxilia, he'll probably resculpt the Legionaries, which gives me an opportunity to do veteran Legionaries
- There'll be Demilegionarii with shields (shieldwall dudes)
- For cavalry there'll be Cataphractarii, Auxilia Equitati, Demi-cavalry and Dromedarii (camel riders)
- There'll be Hyaenae - basically for the Bestiarii, so a pack of them
- Skorpion-men are definitely a thing
- There'll be an Elephant to ride (not as big as the Mammox though)
- There'll definitely be a Skorpio ballista and an Onager (stone thrower)
- Rhino-men will be a thing, as will elephant-men
- There'll be a few more gladiatorii


Érainn
- Hearthguard will be called Deaisbard. Fiannagh are not hearthguard (except for champions of Danu like Cormac), they're roving warrior-bands of Danu.
- Gaemhornagh - Tuanagh with spears.
- Fen Beasts will get weapons.
- Fir Bholg on Piggies is definitely a thing.
- Pine Beasts will appear; 50mm, slender, like Fen Beasts but smaller and whippier.
- Wolfhounds will certainly appear.
- 2x more Bog Beasts of course.
- Fir Bholg giants will happen. 80mm bases. Fatter, bigger, uglier.
- Chariots will appear of course at some point.
- Cavalry will be Guirranmhór and Guirran - lightly armed spear-wielders, the former are the hearthguard version.
- Fomorainn... put us over £16k and I'll tell you all about them... hint: they're denizens of Mann...


Fomorainn
They are the people of Eithne, a Fomorian, Baalor's daughter. They live on the Isle of Mann.
The Fomorainn are... well, think Fimir, Giant Fimir, Fimir-Beasts, and all manner of mistical [sic] stuff revolving around mist... water-in-the-air.


Friesians
Friesians... not much to say to be honest, I haven't done too much work on them; but they'd be very similar to the Angles of course, so there'd be Duguth, Gesith etc., perhaps called something slightly different but very similar.
Weroxa are their shape-shifts and they'd be similar to the Tarvax, armed and armoured differently, and whilst not as feral, they'd be wild of course.
Being predominantly traders, they'd have very good equipment and would be sea-farers of course, and they'd also be slavers, so they'd actually be able to field units of very different things from their various conquests. So expect a unit of slavers to include any kind of human, man-beast, etc. etc.
Think of Friesians as the ultimate sell-sword exploiters.


Infernii
- "smaller" stuff for the Infernii will only ever be the Gargoli; 40mm bases, winged gargoyles, basically. There'll be unarmed and armed versions. Each Gargol will be man-size, but the wings turn them 40mm.
- Demifiends are a thing. Half-way between Demilegionarii and Fiends, there'll be great weapon and shieldwall versions. 50mm base. + Demifiend noble.
- Hellions are Fiend-Centaurs, 80mm base, unit of 1-3. Great weapon and shieldwall versions. + Hellion noble. Derived from cavalry...
- ...so Demihellions will be a thing...
- ...as well Demiequitatus... but that's Byzantii.
- Hellhounds will be a thing.
- Firefiends will be fiends that, er, shoot hellfire.
- There will be more Slaughterfiends, but they will all be totally different. Not done by Dan, I hasten to add...


Jutes
- Jutsweords will be hearthguard...
- Hræwas (Harrowers) will be the fresh dead (i.e., after dying, before wihts) - zombies I guess, but nothing like the zombies you know and love from Hollywood. They still retain intellect; Hrægar are the obvious starting points
- There'll be bat, beetle and maggot swarms
- There'll be a nice, lovely maggot beast
- 2x more Nihtbats will happen
- There'll be smaller guthbats, too (there'll be no bat-men, please note)
- There'll be more beetles of course; 2x more Mound Beetles, but 60mm beetles will also feature
- Jutsweord / Jutgar horse will happen, as will Jutboga horse
- There'll be some lich-warriors (sorcerous warriors, 1-3)
- There'll be a ghul-beast (basically a Gryreghul warped into something really rather odd)


Khthones
- Sávrar Hearthguard there will be... they love corinthian helmets.
- Sávrar on (for want of a better word) Cold Ones.
- Sávrakar (think Kroxigor).
- There'll be Young Gorgonar/ Gorgórar - 40-50mm.
- There'll be snake swarms (Fídrar).
- The Gorgoth will appear... a massive snake-man monster thing.
- There'll be re-crewed Atalantes war engines.
- Khelonar will be a thing. 80mm turtle-beasts; doubtful as to turtle-men right now as I'm hesitant about the concept thanks to certain ninjas. Artwork will be key.
- Lískar will certainly feature at some point. One day...
- there'll be more Hydrakh...
- Stóskoular you've already seen, but there'll be 2x more Stóskoulon.
- Skyllar - sea-serpents.


Norse
Norse info...
- Hearthguard will be Hirdmenn
- Fanatics will be Hrafnserkr (raven-shirts)
- Veteran infantry will be Bondmenn
- Monstrous Infantry will include Sea-Trolls (Sjøtroll) - 50mm bases
- There'll be two more Gunnhrafn
- Hrafnmenn will get bows
- Cavalry will be Holumenn / Hirdmenn
- There'll be a Leiptroll chief
- Trolls will get Trollhunder (troll dogs) - nasty buggers!
- I can confirm there will be Lesser Vore (smaller Blood-Maw) - 80mm bases
- There will be rime-trolls (frost giants) - hrimthursar - 80mm bases
- There will definitely be a lightning-beast of some sort


Seaxsen
Not much to say about these, except they're very far in the future... but I'll tell you what I've got in my locker...
- They're Saxons, of course, but continental ones; the horse is their shift, so centaurs are their thing. As well as the usual Germanic warriors they'd have centaurs and centaur lords.
- They'd be fairly cavalry based, but not too much; think Rohirrim.
- I do see these guys as interchangeable with the Anglecynn, pretty much, so they'd have Duguth etc.


Vras
These guys have been a poor cousin of the Ysians for a while, although I have many plans for them! In essence the Vras are all types of rodent and mustelid, but the Vras in the shape of the mole-rat-men do dominate. But you'll see weasel-men, porcupine-beasts, badger-men, beaver-men, etc. etc. It's hard to make some of them not silly, so there'll be no rabbit-men or anything like that, they'll just be rodents gone nasty.
- War-Vras will be the hearthguard; armoured Spear-Vras with double-handers, basically, but bigger and more nasty - 40mm. There'll be spear/shield variants and fanatical variants without weapons (Claw-Vras).
- Grey-Vras will be heavily armoured Spear-Vras, alts really.
- Bow-Vras are bow-armed Vras and Blade-Vras (throwing knives) will be their alts (you've seen these, but I'll be doing new artwork for them).
- Filth-Vras are foul Vras monstrous infantry (50mm), a bit like the Corruptors I guess.
- Rend-Vras are 60mm Rat Ogre types, full unit of 5 with command.
- Brock-Beasts are badger-men, basically; 80mm, 1-3.
- Beaver-Beasts as well, 60mm.
- There'll be porcupine-men, probably skunk-men, weasel-men, etc. etc.
- Some rodents will be large beasts of course, so there'd be things like Back-Cracker but for other rodent types;
- Spear-Vras will ride Rat-Horses
- Rat swarms will feature
- The Blight side of things will mutate rats, so there'll be some good horrifying mutated beasts like Flint-Fang
- The rats will also do rat-vivicocts (think Three-Face without the arcane bits)
- There'll be Rat-Hounds as well, plus Vras-Handlers a bit like Goad-Drunes
- There'll be mole-men as well as Mole-Things - giant moles that burrow to the enemy and spew Vras after them
That's yer lot...


Ysians
- Thugs - 40mm versions of Brutes
- Chain-Drunes - you already know of these; Ax-Drunes with chains
- Death-Drunes - hearthguard Drunes
- Mule-Brutes - centaur Brutes
- Joinings (borrowed from Mr Gemmell without shame) - melded Vivicocts; not stitched, joined by sorcery
- Avatar of Kernunnos (I have rough art for this)
- As for the Nithings, they're all constructs made by the Flesh-Smiths to become familiars, basically. Each one is different. The Pig-Bog is a real creature, though. It lives in bogs, hence the name.

[dento]

Some cool stuff Rob !

Ow this game is sick

More options, more builds.... Love it !

[zedmeister]

It's been a while...

...but I've updated the original post. As always, if there's anything you've spotted that doesn't appear, submit them below to add to the list.

[zedmeister]

Talk about wrong button!

[zedmeister]

Ooops - quoted instead of edited! Butter fingers...

[Rob Lane]

Great work Zed!

Just one correction from me - Sacerdos Infernum are Byzantii...

Cheers
Rob

[Lesrac]

Thank you for the work Zed

[Blæc Panþer]

Thank you for updating this list Zed!
Really appreciate it!

[Kharn]

Hey, guys!
Any news on the Savage Hordes book and Scenarios Book?

[cornishlee]

Any news on the goghu unit?

[Rob Lane]

The Goghu unit aren't currently slated for anything Lee - they're an "at some point". They were never part of a KS.

Cheers
Rob

[cornishlee]

Thanks, Rob. I realised they weren't part of a KS (otherwise I'd be asking to late back), I just wondered if there was any plans for them with a date attached (perhaps as part of another KS). So, now I know.

[Rob Lane]

Thanks, Rob. I realised they weren't part of a KS (otherwise I'd be asking to late back), I just wondered if there was any plans for them with a date attached (perhaps as part of another KS). So, now I know.

It's something that I've got up my sleeve - it's a perfect Tim Prow project, so we'll see what happens...

Cheers
Rob

[cornishlee]

Thanks, Rob. I'll be keeping an eye out.